Discussion:
The Redshift that’s an observed variable
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Brad Guth
2012-10-03 21:22:54 UTC
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Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?

Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space, and the
velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a continual
variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually stretching
that individual photon over any given distance and time, so along the
way there’s not any one speed/velocity variation or redshift to
contend with.

Part 2: Are not older galaxies redder than newer galaxies?

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Brad Guth
2012-10-06 17:13:30 UTC
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Depending on which galaxy its measured from, the Hubble constant is
different, even locally negative if it were measured from within the
Great Attractor that could be considered as acting somewhat like a
wormhole or soon to become a ultra mega black hole once a few galaxies
merge.

Locally there are any number of galaxies (including our galaxy)
heading into the GA at the average trek velocity of roughly 700 km/
sec, and of those coming head on to us will likely be making their
final encounter of merging with us at 1500+ km/sec. Of course we’ll
first have to survive getting rear-ended by the Andromeda galaxy
that’s nearby and closing fast. Even a galactic glancing blow could
become highly problematic for billions of solar systems like ours if
only 0.1% of stars and their planet collective get perturbed or
otherwise contributed to.

According to the latest interpretations of our supposedly forever
expanding universe, the expansion rate from our perspective is roughly
74.3 km/sec/3e6 ly, or 2.477e-2 m/sec/ly. Unfortunately this
migration or cosmic molecular outsourcing to places ever farther away,
and of galaxies going every which way at the same time (including
those colliding and of mergers) makes everything a whole lot more
complicated and dependent on each galaxy doing its own local thing
while this expansion or big ongoing flow is taking place.

In other words, most anything past 12.1e9 ly from us is going to
become invisible to us, because we’re moving faster than ‘c’ away from
it, and the propagation or FIFO handoff of those distant photons will
never again reach us unless something has slowed down or having sort
of been dragging its feet. Otherwise, older galaxies are also
becoming redder due to the fusion process that all main-sequence stars
must endure as they age, not to mention the greater populations of
those forever lasting red and brown dwarfs that seem to exist in the
vast majority. A brown dwarf can also gain mass of helium, hydrogen
and other elements as those are made available, thus further
sustaining themselves.

However, with perhaps at least 5e55 kg and possibly 5e56 kg worth of
cosmic mass (including its dark/clear aether), there should be
sufficient gravity to have slowed and even as having reversed this
rate of expansion, unless there’s an ongoing aether dark/clear flow or
some kind of excess diamagnetic helium or the collective photon
displacement to contend with.

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Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space, and the
velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a continual
variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually stretching
that individual photon over any given distance and time, so along the
way there’s not any one speed/velocity variation or redshift to
contend with.
Part 2:  Are not older galaxies redder than newer galaxies?
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Double-A
2012-10-07 21:04:37 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way? Safety in numbers!

Double-A
Brad Guth
2012-10-07 21:14:36 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there. Obviously that's another lie,
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.

How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through)
Double-A
2012-10-07 21:42:31 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter. That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of ligjht years!

Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through)
Brad Guth
2012-10-10 11:10:55 UTC
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Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.

Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through)
Double-A
2012-10-10 18:57:43 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?

Double-A
American
2012-10-10 19:46:34 UTC
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Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?
Double-A
For decades the measured deficiency of electron-neutrinos has been a
continuing embarrassment for those who want to believe that the
accepted H-He fusion model of how the Sun produces its energy is
correct. Because this failure to observe the predicted neutrino flux
clearly constitutes falsification of this fusion model, there has been
a great effort to explain away the observed deficit.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2009/arch09/090707fusion.htm :

"The stars receive their power from outside, not inside. Any nuclear
reactions are taking place on the surface of the Sun and not in its
core. The solar wind is an electric current connecting the Sun with
its family of planets and with its galactic clan, so the 90-year-old
theory of fusion firing the solar furnace needs to be reexamined."

What I am getting out of the above paragraph, is that it's the
twisting effect through the aether, that sheds photons from the ZPF,
since the planets do not really rotate around the sun, but they rotate
around the vortex of the sun, created again by the vortex of mass,
which is draining into the center of the galaxy:


Double-A
2012-10-10 19:56:05 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?
Double-A
For decades the measured deficiency of electron-neutrinos has been a
continuing embarrassment for those who want to believe that the
accepted H-He fusion model of how the Sun produces its energy is
correct.  Because this failure to observe the predicted neutrino flux
clearly constitutes falsification of this fusion model, there has been
a great effort to explain away the observed deficit.
"The stars receive their power from outside, not inside. Any nuclear
reactions are taking place on the surface of the Sun and not in its
core. The solar wind is an electric current connecting the Sun with
its family of planets and with its galactic clan, so the 90-year-old
theory of fusion firing the solar furnace needs to be reexamined."
What I am getting out of the above paragraph, is that it's the
twisting effect through the aether, that sheds photons from the ZPF,
since the planets do not really rotate around the sun, but they rotate
around the vortex of the sun, created again by the vortex of mass,
http://youtu.be/-NH5yK3ZN54
No matter what is keeping the Sun hot, it must be emmiting a
significant number of photons to heeat the planets, etc.

Double-A

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Brad Guth
2012-10-10 20:44:45 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?
Double-A
For decades the measured deficiency of electron-neutrinos has been a
continuing embarrassment for those who want to believe that the
accepted H-He fusion model of how the Sun produces its energy is
correct.  Because this failure to observe the predicted neutrino flux
clearly constitutes falsification of this fusion model, there has been
a great effort to explain away the observed deficit.
"The stars receive their power from outside, not inside. Any nuclear
reactions are taking place on the surface of the Sun and not in its
core. The solar wind is an electric current connecting the Sun with
its family of planets and with its galactic clan, so the 90-year-old
theory of fusion firing the solar furnace needs to be reexamined."
What I am getting out of the above paragraph, is that it's the
twisting effect through the aether, that sheds photons from the ZPF,
since the planets do not really rotate around the sun, but they rotate
around the vortex of the sun, created again by the vortex of mass,
http://youtu.be/-NH5yK3ZN54
No matter what is keeping the Sun hot, it must be emitting a
significant number of photons to heat the planets, etc.
Double-A
Photons can obviously transfer energy, but perhaps the photons
themselves need not have to move for this enormous energy transfer to
take place.
Double-A
2012-10-11 19:17:45 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?
Double-A
For decades the measured deficiency of electron-neutrinos has been a
continuing embarrassment for those who want to believe that the
accepted H-He fusion model of how the Sun produces its energy is
correct.  Because this failure to observe the predicted neutrino flux
clearly constitutes falsification of this fusion model, there has been
a great effort to explain away the observed deficit.
"The stars receive their power from outside, not inside. Any nuclear
reactions are taking place on the surface of the Sun and not in its
core. The solar wind is an electric current connecting the Sun with
its family of planets and with its galactic clan, so the 90-year-old
theory of fusion firing the solar furnace needs to be reexamined."
What I am getting out of the above paragraph, is that it's the
twisting effect through the aether, that sheds photons from the ZPF,
since the planets do not really rotate around the sun, but they rotate
around the vortex of the sun, created again by the vortex of mass,
http://youtu.be/-NH5yK3ZN54
No matter what is keeping the Sun hot, it must be emitting a
significant number of photons to heat the planets, etc.
Double-A
Photons can obviously transfer energy, but perhaps the photons
themselves need not have to move for this enormous energy transfer to
take place.
Are you suggesting that photons "commune" through dimensionally
collapsed space. If that is the case, then maybe there is only one
photon in the universe!

Double-A
Brad Guth
2012-10-12 02:33:42 UTC
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Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?
Double-A
For decades the measured deficiency of electron-neutrinos has been a
continuing embarrassment for those who want to believe that the
accepted H-He fusion model of how the Sun produces its energy is
correct.  Because this failure to observe the predicted neutrino flux
clearly constitutes falsification of this fusion model, there has been
a great effort to explain away the observed deficit.
"The stars receive their power from outside, not inside. Any nuclear
reactions are taking place on the surface of the Sun and not in its
core. The solar wind is an electric current connecting the Sun with
its family of planets and with its galactic clan, so the 90-year-old
theory of fusion firing the solar furnace needs to be reexamined."
What I am getting out of the above paragraph, is that it's the
twisting effect through the aether, that sheds photons from the ZPF,
since the planets do not really rotate around the sun, but they rotate
around the vortex of the sun, created again by the vortex of mass,
http://youtu.be/-NH5yK3ZN54
No matter what is keeping the Sun hot, it must be emitting a
significant number of photons to heat the planets, etc.
Double-A
Photons can obviously transfer energy, but perhaps the photons
themselves need not have to move for this enormous energy transfer to
take place.
Are you suggesting that photons "commune" through dimensionally
collapsed space.  If that is the case, then maybe there is only one
photon in the universe!
Double-A
By now, photons are more likely worth trillions upon trillions upon
trillions per cm3, or at least per m3.
Painius
2012-10-11 17:42:52 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of phiotons each second?
Double-A
For decades the measured deficiency of electron-neutrinos has been a
continuing embarrassment for those who want to believe that the
accepted H-He fusion model of how the Sun produces its energy is
correct. Because this failure to observe the predicted neutrino flux
clearly constitutes falsification of this fusion model, there has been
a great effort to explain away the observed deficit.
"The stars receive their power from outside, not inside. Any nuclear
reactions are taking place on the surface of the Sun and not in its
core. The solar wind is an electric current connecting the Sun with
its family of planets and with its galactic clan, so the 90-year-old
theory of fusion firing the solar furnace needs to be reexamined."
What I am getting out of the above paragraph, is that it's the
twisting effect through the aether, that sheds photons from the ZPF,
since the planets do not really rotate around the sun, but they rotate
around the vortex of the sun, created again by the vortex of mass,
http://youtu.be/-NH5yK3ZN54
I am willing to accept all that, because it appears to be very similar
to the "flow of space into matter that causes gravity" idea that I've
been discussing here for years.

One very large problem people, including scientists, have is to be
able to picture in their mind a three-dimensional (3D) vortex. Artists
are able to paint a 2D vortex, like when they paint a gravity well.
But we seem to be like 2D flat people who live in a 2D town, who are
unable to mentally envision anything 3D.

In reality, we are 3D people who live in a 3D town, who should try
very hard to mentally picture all things 3D. When most people give
this a serious try, one of the first questions is, "Where does the
stuff actually go? If it enters a 3D vortex from all directions and
heads for the center of the mass, what happens when it reaches the
center?"

It's an enigma! lol
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."
HVAC
2012-10-11 20:28:04 UTC
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Post by Painius
In reality, we are 3D people who live in a 3D town, who should try
very hard to mentally picture all things 3D. When most people give
this a serious try, one of the first questions is, "Where does the
stuff actually go? If it enters a 3D vortex from all directions and
heads for the center of the mass, what happens when it reaches the
center?"
It's an enigma! lol
The mystery is solved when you remove the bullshit (ether).
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Painius
2012-10-13 14:59:24 UTC
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Post by Painius
In reality, we are 3D people who live in a 3D town, who should try
very hard to mentally picture all things 3D. When most people give
this a serious try, one of the first questions is, "Where does the
stuff actually go? If it enters a 3D vortex from all directions and
heads for the center of the mass, what happens when it reaches the
center?"
It's an enigma! lol
The mystery is solved when you remove the bullshit (ether).
And people are supposed to read your mind as to the details of what
that solution is?

As you probably didn't guess, I was being facetious, Harlow. Possible
sollutions have been discussed here for many years, mostly before you
began to post here. For example...

1) One poster has suggested that there was a main "engine" that
supplies the force and pressure that's required for space to flow into
matter. When this flow of space reaches the center of a planet, star,
etc., it uses some sort of quantum nonlocality/entanglement to return
to the main engine and start all over again. So there would be a
constant process at work that continuously flows to the center of a
mass and then, through quantum nonlocality, makes it back to the
source and begins the process anew.

2) I think that spacetime is a balanced medium. For any certain
amount of mass, there is a certain and balanced amount of spatial flow
into that mass - the larger the mass, the more the flow, and the
stronger the gravitational effect/force. The gravitational energy,
then is continuously being used by matter. Each and every atom
requires constant replenishment of the energy it uses. By the time
the energy reaches the center of a mass, it is all used up. It
doesn't have to "go" anywhere, for, not only is there nowhere to go,
but there is no energy left to go anywhere. That
spatial/gravitational energy has been used by each and every atom of
the mass it entered. There is no more energy at the center of the
mass.

There have been other ideas, and this thread might even inspire others
to set forth new ideas about gravitation. I look forward to reading
them!
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."
Brad Guth
2012-10-13 15:45:04 UTC
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Post by HVAC
Post by Painius
In reality, we are 3D people who live in a 3D town, who should try
very hard to mentally picture all things 3D.  When most people give
this a serious try, one of the first questions is, "Where does the
stuff actually go?  If it enters a 3D vortex from all directions and
heads for the center of the mass, what happens when it reaches the
center?"
It's an enigma! lol
The mystery is solved when you remove the bullshit (ether).
And people are supposed to read your mind as to the details of what
that solution is?
As you probably didn't guess, I was being facetious, Harlow.  Possible
sollutions have been discussed here for many years, mostly before you
began to post here.  For example...
1)  One poster has suggested that there was a main "engine" that
supplies the force and pressure that's required for space to flow into
matter.  When this flow of space reaches the center of a planet, star,
etc., it uses some sort of quantum nonlocality/entanglement to return
to the main engine and start all over again.  So there would be a
constant process at work that continuously flows to the center of a
mass and then, through quantum nonlocality, makes it back to the
source and begins the process anew.
2)  I think that spacetime is a balanced medium.  For any certain
amount of mass, there is a certain and balanced amount of spatial flow
into that mass - the larger the mass, the more the flow, and the
stronger the gravitational effect/force.  The gravitational energy,
then is continuously being used by matter.  Each and every atom
requires constant replenishment of the energy it uses.  By the time
the energy reaches the center of a mass, it is all used up.  It
doesn't have to "go" anywhere, for, not only is there nowhere to go,
but there is no energy left to go anywhere.  That
spatial/gravitational energy has been used by each and every atom of
the mass it entered.  There is no more energy at the center of the
mass.
There have been other ideas, and this thread might even inspire others
to set forth new ideas about gravitation.  I look forward to reading
them!
--
Indelibly yours,
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
HVAC
2012-10-13 20:04:59 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
Very good, Brad. You are correct. It's my job.
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bjacoby@teranews.com
2012-10-13 20:59:14 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
Very good, Brad. You are correct. It's my job.
Obviously!
Brad Guth
2012-10-13 21:19:12 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
Very good, Brad. You are correct. It's my job.
Obviously!
Sometimes our Harlow can be dead serious and honest at the same time,
but since he's such a well proven LLPOF kind of FUD-master, is why
anything he ever has to say is highly questionable if not improbable.
HVAC
2012-10-13 23:42:56 UTC
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Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Brad Guth
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
Very good, Brad. You are correct. It's my job.
Obviously!
Sometimes our Harlow can be dead serious and honest at the same time,
but since he's such a well proven LLPOF kind of FUD-master, is why
anything he ever has to say is highly questionable if not improbable.
And the best part is the most unlikely can sometimes be true.
--
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HVAC
2012-10-13 23:42:01 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
Very good, Brad. You are correct. It's my job.
Obviously!
So stop giving me shit.
--
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bjacoby@teranews.com
2012-10-14 04:28:15 UTC
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Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Brad Guth
Harlow only looks forward to topic/author stalking, bashing and
trashing any new or improved ideas.
Very good, Brad. You are correct. It's my job.
Obviously!
So stop giving me shit.
Bite me.

You KNOW you love it you low worm,

Now shut up and take your punishment you naughty boy!
HVAC
2012-10-13 20:04:11 UTC
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Post by Painius
Post by HVAC
Post by Painius
It's an enigma! lol
The mystery is solved when you remove the bullshit (ether).
And people are supposed to read your mind as to the details of what
that solution is?
No. There are many books that explain it in a far more erudite manner
than I could.
Post by Painius
As you probably didn't guess, I was being facetious, Harlow. Possible
sollutions have been discussed here for many years, mostly before you
began to post here. For example...
Honestly, I have read enough shit here to realize just how gullible some
people are. Mainly they consist of people who believe that since they
are unable to comprehend gravitational/curved space theory, that means
it's not true and some off the wall bullshit that THEY invent is better.
I remain unimpressed.
Post by Painius
1) One poster has suggested that there was a main "engine" that
supplies the force and pressure that's required for space to flow into
matter. When this flow of space reaches the center of a planet, star,
etc., it uses some sort of quantum nonlocality/entanglement to return
to the main engine and start all over again. So there would be a
constant process at work that continuously flows to the center of a
mass and then, through quantum nonlocality, makes it back to the
source and begins the process anew.
Laughable. And utterly unsupportable with facts.
Post by Painius
2) I think that spacetime is a balanced medium.
Fortunately for physics, your opinion counts for nothing. No offense.
Post by Painius
For any certain
amount of mass, there is a certain and balanced amount of spatial flow
into that mass - the larger the mass, the more the flow, and the
stronger the gravitational effect/force. The gravitational energy,
then is continuously being used by matter. Each and every atom
requires constant replenishment of the energy it uses. By the time
the energy reaches the center of a mass, it is all used up.
This is a joke, right?
Post by Painius
It
doesn't have to "go" anywhere, for, not only is there nowhere to go,
but there is no energy left to go anywhere. That
spatial/gravitational energy has been used by each and every atom of
the mass it entered. There is no more energy at the center of the
mass.
So just throw out the law of conservation of energy like 3 day old fish?

You're funny!
Post by Painius
There have been other ideas, and this thread might even inspire others
to set forth new ideas about gravitation. I look forward to reading
them!
I look forward to trashing them. It's what I do!


So everyone put forth your favorite kooky idea and allow me to have at
it. As an extra bonus, I will call you names and make fun of you.
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Brad Guth
2012-10-10 20:40:17 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite stream of photons, if instead there were but only one photon
of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given distant
star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like if our
observation of this one photon was moving us away from that distant
star at nearly the speed of light?
What if something happened to it along the way?  Safety in numbers!
Double-A
According to the mainstream status-quo, there's nothing obstructive
between us and way the hell out there.  Obviously that's another lie,
Yes, because "empty" space contains an average of about 1 hydrogen
atom per cubic centimeter.  That's a lot of opportunities for a photon
to collide with something over billions of light years!
Double-A
Plus all those larger items of carbon buckyballs and whatever the dark/
clear aether has to contribute could be highly problematic.
Supposedly a quasar as well as closely orbiting binary neutrons or WDs
could yield those individual photons, although thus far we haven't
objectively proven that any singular photon actually moves through
space or that of its unmolecular aether.
Post by Double-A
Post by Brad Guth
because our galaxy alone has 1e5 rogue/nomad planets per star, and
that's not even counting any of the planetoids and mother-lodes of
smaller stuff (including carbon buckyballs) for them photons to
encounter.
How about transmitting and attempting to detect a maximum of one
photon/sec? (that's a lot of photons/year, whereas at least one should
get through).
How do you suppose the Sun is losing energy if it isn't sending of
billions of photons each second?
Double-A
Electrons represent mass, and supposedly photons are massless though
capable of transferring solar energy and thus capable of transferring
mass (perhaps in the form of free electrons).

It also takes energy for any chain-reaction of creating wave after
wave of those individual photons that don't actually have to move as
long as they each manage to materialize and respond on demand.

The main-sequence of our sun tosses away a great deal of its energy/
sec (the vast majority of which doesn't benefit Earth), as well as
giving off considerable molecular mass in the fusion process of
burning up it's ample supply of hydrogen and eventually its helium
before turning itself into a nasty little WD that can't possibly hold
onto its planets.

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Brad Guth
2012-10-10 11:23:54 UTC
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Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?

A 550 nm photon should become way more then red:
–50% ‘c’ = 1100 nm
–75% ‘c’ = 2200 nm
–87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm

Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation or redshift to contend with.

Part 2: Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?

Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667). Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs. The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the-Milky-Way-140917963.html?pageSize=0
http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313

So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible. Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.

On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus. The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.

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G=EMC^2
2012-10-10 14:04:27 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation or redshift to contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
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Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship. TeBet
Brad Guth
2012-10-10 15:37:45 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation or redshift to contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
American
2012-10-10 16:56:22 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation or redshift to contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
Interesting take on the origin of super-resident photons @ 10^94 to
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.

According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Brad Guth
2012-10-10 17:18:53 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation or redshift to contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?

Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?

In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?

http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm

If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
American
2012-10-10 17:25:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation or redshift to contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).

Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Brad Guth
2012-11-06 23:10:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
American
2012-11-07 13:32:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
as per Kaluza-Klein Quantum Gravity:

Loading Image...

A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"

This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect

1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
American
2012-11-07 14:00:40 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
value:

Loading Image...

'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
within a polarization of 100 fermi-seconds, as shown in the chart:

Loading Image...

...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Brad Guth
2012-11-07 14:24:20 UTC
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Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Besides photon waves interacting with molecular stuff, perhaps those
2D flat or circular polarized photon waves are simply interacting as
quantum entangled within the aether that we still know so little if
anything about.
American
2012-11-07 14:40:18 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Besides photon waves interacting with molecular stuff, perhaps those
2D flat or circular polarized photon waves are simply interacting as
quantum entangled within the aether that we still know so little if
anything about.
The question, 'Where is the trigger?' cannot be fully answered,
without first describing how matter waves can form a sonoluminescing
medium, such as we would have in the case of cold H-O-H fusion, or de-
fusion, for that matter.

But since you brought it up, I'm inclined to admit that there is
actually a conspiracy within the establishment, that's trying to
obfuscate whatever plans individuals might have, that would benefit
the common man over the corporate criminal.

People need to wake up from the deep trance that our society has
placed them in:



...and then maybe we Americans can begin to enjoy the fruits of our
own labors...
Uncle Steve
2012-11-07 15:11:20 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Nice example of actual gibberish. One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.


Regards,

Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends. My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone. Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration. I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor. I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card. If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
American
2012-11-07 16:04:29 UTC
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Post by American
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/”GuthVenus”
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Nice example of actual gibberish.  One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
Naaaah, the theory isn't quite ready for an FUD forum such as yours,
but nice try anyway.

One easily recognizes the prison of mind that people make of
themselves, particularly when their own jails of thought provide
others with the opportunity to poke, prod, and jab them into
submission.

Since I neither do not know who you are, or attacked you in any way,
why should that give you cause to disbelieve anything from anyone that
you do not recognize as accepted as scientific truth?

No doubt you carry your own approved version of 100% physics approved
scientific license, which means that your probably suffering from an
acute invalidation complex yourself, and are attempting to project
your own arrogant viewpoint on anyone who doesn't play the game of
"status quo science".
Uncle Steve
2012-11-07 16:28:25 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
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Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Nice example of actual gibberish.  One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
Naaaah, the theory isn't quite ready for an FUD forum such as yours,
but nice try anyway.
One easily recognizes the prison of mind that people make of
themselves, particularly when their own jails of thought provide
others with the opportunity to poke, prod, and jab them into
submission.
Since I neither do not know who you are, or attacked you in any way,
why should that give you cause to disbelieve anything from anyone that
you do not recognize as accepted as scientific truth?
No doubt you carry your own approved version of 100% physics approved
scientific license, which means that your probably suffering from an
acute invalidation complex yourself, and are attempting to project
your own arrogant viewpoint on anyone who doesn't play the game of
"status quo science".
No, I am not subject to your blinkered rose-coloured view of reality.
You can't pass off word-salad and say that it is representative of
rational thought. Well, you can, but it makes you look like an idiot.
The only person you're fooling is yourself. Not that stupid fun-house
mirror image you like to project; you, the real you.


Regards,

Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends. My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone. Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration. I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor. I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card. If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
American
2012-11-07 16:38:55 UTC
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Post by Uncle Steve
Post by American
Post by American
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
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Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Nice example of actual gibberish.  One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
Naaaah, the theory isn't quite ready for an FUD forum such as yours,
but nice try anyway.
One easily recognizes the prison of mind that people make of
themselves, particularly when their own jails of thought provide
others with the opportunity to poke, prod, and jab them into
submission.
Since I neither do not know who you are, or attacked you in any way,
why should that give you cause to disbelieve anything from anyone that
you do not recognize as accepted as scientific truth?
No doubt you carry your own approved version of 100% physics approved
scientific license, which means that your probably suffering from an
acute invalidation complex yourself, and are attempting to project
your own arrogant viewpoint on anyone who doesn't play the game of
"status quo science".
No, I am not subject to your blinkered rose-coloured view of reality.
You can't pass off word-salad and say that it is representative of
rational thought.  Well, you can, but it makes you look like an idiot.
The only person you're fooling is yourself.  Not that stupid fun-house
mirror image you like to project; you, the real you.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
I abhor freaks of nature. Status-quo science is one of them.
Generalizations no longer apply here. Your game of witch-hunt has now
come to an end.

http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/Theory%20for%20Extra%20Large%20Dimensions.htm
http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/The%20Leedskalnin%20Generator%20-%20Circular%20Waveguide%20Connection.htm
http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/spacetime_geodesics.htm
http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/crystal.htm
http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/magnetofluxgate.htm

I actually get physically sick of people trying to lecture me with
their pompous attitude, so I'm now taking the liberty to boldly
espouse what little known knowledge might still be available on the
internet, for the sake of revealing how EVIL this generation has
become...

EAT IT SWINE ! ! !
Brad Guth
2012-11-07 20:22:03 UTC
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Post by American
Post by Uncle Steve
No, I am not subject to your blinkered rose-coloured view of reality.
You can't pass off word-salad and say that it is representative of
rational thought.  Well, you can, but it makes you look like an idiot.
The only person you're fooling is yourself.  Not that stupid fun-house
mirror image you like to project; you, the real you.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
I abhor freaks of nature. Status-quo science is one of them.
Generalizations no longer apply here. Your game of witch-hunt has now
come to an end.
http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/Theory%20for%20Extra%20Large%20Dime...http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/The%20Leedskalnin%20Generator%20-%2...http://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/spacetime_geodesics.htmhttp://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/crystal.htmhttp://zeropoint.dreamstation.com/magnetofluxgate.htm
I actually get physically sick of people trying to lecture me with
their pompous attitude, so I'm now taking the liberty to boldly
espouse what little known knowledge might still be available on the
internet, for the sake of revealing how EVIL this generation has
become...
EAT IT SWINE ! ! !
The best cure for not getting "physically sick of people trying to
lecture" us, is to simply ignore them by never directly replying to
them. I usually don't even bother to read their stuff, much less make
an effort at any direct reply because, the one and only outcome is the
same old mainstream status quo.

-

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2012-11-07 20:15:40 UTC
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Nice example of actual gibberish.  One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
Naaaah, the theory isn't quite ready for an FUD forum such as yours,
but nice try anyway.
One easily recognizes the prison of mind that people make of
themselves, particularly when their own jails of thought provide
others with the opportunity to poke, prod, and jab them into
submission.
Since I neither do not know who you are, or attacked you in any way,
why should that give you cause to disbelieve anything from anyone that
you do not recognize as accepted as scientific truth?
No doubt you carry your own approved version of 100% physics approved
scientific license, which means that your probably suffering from an
acute invalidation complex yourself, and are attempting to project
your own arrogant viewpoint on anyone who doesn't play the game of
"status quo science".
Uncle Steve is a mainstream status quo FUD-master, so you can always
count on his naysay and/or obfuscation as to anything that rocks his
boat.

Such mainstreamers are deathly afraid of the whole truth and nothing
but the truth, because that would cut a large portion of them out of
the ranks of real science and modern physics that's on the move.

“GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314

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Sir Gilligan Horry
2012-11-07 20:23:37 UTC
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Post by Uncle Steve
Post by American
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Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by American
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
Instead of making this astrophysics request easy by offering an
infinite chain or stream of photons, if instead there were but only
one photon of 550 nm emitted and precisely directed at us by a given
distant star, then what would that singular photon look or detect like
if our observation of this one individual photon was moving us away
from that distant star at nearly the speed of light?
 –50% ‘c’ =  1100 nm
 –75% ‘c’ =  2200 nm
 –87.5% ‘c’ = 4400 nm
Remember that this request is based upon individual photons actually
moving or propagating their way through mostly empty space
(unmolecular space could be packed solid with dark/clear aether), and
the velocity in between us and that distant star is supposedly a
continual variable imposed by the Hubble constant, as continually
stretching that individual photon over any given distance and time,
and thereby along the way there’s not going to be any one speed/
velocity variation orredshiftto contend with.
Part 2:  Are not those older galaxies inherently redder than newer
galaxies?
Our own galaxy when viewed from any distance by a WISE or JWST kind of
optical instrument would likely be a somewhat reddish kind, perhaps
because the vast majority of its stars are M-class red dwarfs that
according to recent observations outnumber all other stars by at least
a magnitude (some speculating more than a couple magnitudes), and the
majority of those RDs likely host viable planets (including super-
Earths like Gliese 667).  Otherwise we also have any number of spent
stars as red giants and others of greater mass than our sun that’ll
soon enough become RGs.  The indirect evidence as to the unusually
large number of wandering/rogue nomad or unbound planets from 2e22 kg
and larger (up to 2e28 kg) might further suggest as to how many main-
sequence stars have become depleted RGs as having given away their
planets.
 http://cronodon.com/SpaceTech/StarPopulations.html
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2687
 http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/How-Many-Unbound-Planets-Roam-the...
 http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=22313
So, don’t look at me as though I’m inventing stuff that isn’t out
there, or having suggested the impossible.  Exoplanetology and
Observationology kind of go together as a scientific team effort in
the recent discovery of RDs and their planets, as well as eventually
JWST quantifying the number of nomad planets could be yet another nail
in the coffin of what makes our galaxy tick within the unknowns of our
forever expanding universe.
On the other hand, unlike the expanding universe of galaxies we can’t
possibly do anything with or about, we also have the extremely nearby
planet Venus that’s anything but dull or inert, especially at
GuthVenus.  The IR surface of Venus isn't Goldilocks friendly, but
it's also not technically insurmountable to those of us with any
forward looking resolve, that by rights should matter a great deal.
 http://groups.google.com/groups/search
 http://translate.google.com/#
 BradGuth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,GuthUsenet/â€?GuthVenusâ€?
Red and blue can be useful in a fast moving space ship.  TeBet
Yes, everything ahead is shifted bluish, normal to the side, top or
bottom and otherwise reddish behind, and perhaps only because
individual photons as we know them don't actually move.
around 10^127 watts-seconds per cubic centimeter of the ZPF (Wheeler).
IMO lightspeed dilation occurs in proportion to the intensity of
bosonic exchange of photons throughout the aether.
According to a mysterious internal fractal symmetry, the galactic
velocity of the Milky Way galaxy is exactly the same as the Fine
Structure Constant says it is (c/137), within the Atomic unit of
velocity. This suggests a dynamic, internal symmetry, between both the
quantum and macroscopic worlds.
Do electrons represent a ZPF?
Where is it estimated that our galaxy is moving along at 2,188 km/sec?
In relationship to what cosmic point of reference, or of that zero
point field, is our galactic velocity established as c/137?
 http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter4.html
 http://www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm
If aether is representing considerable mass which our 3D molecular
realm can't detect nor safely interact with to our benefit, then how
is understanding the ZPF ever going to help us move forward?
For an H-H-O bond, it's double the A.U.V., or 2/137 c, where the Fine
Structure constant comes from, the ratio of the speed of sound (or
optical phonons 340.29 m / s, times [100e(phi) + (495 - 0.1278)]
within the nucleus/electronic structure, to, the speed of light (299
792 458 meter per second).
Bosonic interchange ZPF anomalies, occur at the 50nm dimension using
14,000 khz stimulation frequency on H2O. If you multiply frequency by
length/cycle you get a velocity. That velocity relates to the atomic
transitional state. It also agrees with the constant of Atomic unit of
Velocity (c/137).
Not sure that I understand much of that, but thanks anyway.
I made a mistake. The '0.1278' should have been '0.7128'. Still, it
amounts to a similar, revised, NEGATIVE constant of effective action,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
A rapidly moving H-O-H interface (where two media different indices of
refraction come together) may facilitate the conversion of virtual
photons into real photons. In fact, sonoluminescence may represent the
first observable manifestation of quantum vacuum radiation. A
discerning question that relates 'aether', to our observable, 4D
spacetime could thus be, "Where's the trigger for this to happen?"
This scenario can be compared to the "Unruh effect," a hypothetical
phenomenon in which photons are emitted by a mirror accelerating
through a vacuum. The mirror, in this case, would represent an H-O
quantum 'bend' off an H-O quantum surface plane, with a blue shift off
the spectrum, amounting to up to 200 fs (fermi-seconds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
1000 fermi-seconds equals 1 pico-second (ps). There is also a 'red
shift', amounting to 100 fs. The red shift only seems more apparent
with greater look-back time, as it should, but the 'blue shift' is
uniformly distributed, as well as being observed everywhere,
throughout the universe.
Here is the actual formula that can be used to solve for the '0.7128'
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/15/kaluzakleinquantumadjus.jpg
'Everywhere blue' shifts to 'everywhere red' at an event horizon,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/652/polarizationanisotropy.jpg
...however, the shifting from a blue to red polarization must be
because of the curvature of space time itself, the point being that
bipolar photons are being emitted throughout the universe, as the
speed of light DECREASES with further look-back time. This must mean
that the amount of photon-seconds per unit time is also
proportionately INCREASING at the quantum level, but cannot be seen,
because it is being absorbed by other molecules, in the form of IR
heat, as well as continually being agglomerated by other matter by
gravity, the same gravity that will eventually irradiate and vaporize
with similar, H-O-H molecules.
Nice example of actual gibberish. One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
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Brad Guth
2012-11-08 13:10:52 UTC
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Post by Sir Gilligan Horry
Nice example of actual gibberish.  One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
Hi Uncle Steve !
Hi Aratzio !  :)
Hi Charles D. Bohne in the After Life !
Hi Mr HVAC Psychologist !
 (I quit coffee and am now happy)
Hi Doctor Sir Artie !
Hi Gaia !
Hi Alexa !
Hi Creator !
Hi Art Bell !
Hi Sheldan !
Hi John Lear !
Hi Mothwomen !
Hi Dimensional Beings !
Hi Planet Iarga Aliens !
Hi Flatwoods Monster Aliens !
Hi Allagash Abduction Aliens !
Hi Sir Gilligan Horry Talking to Myself !
Hi Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter Aliens !
Hi Cute Japanese Chicks in Fukushima !
Hi Cennina Landing and Encounter Aliens !
Hi Travis Walton Non-Human and Human Aliens !
Hi "Antonio Villas Boas" Encounter and Aliens !
Hi Dr. Jonathan Reed's Multi-Dimensional Aliens !
Hi Alec Newald and Zeena with all the other Aliens !
Hi Dr. Roger K. Leir and "UFO Crash in Brazil" Aliens !
Hi Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, Aliens and Robots !
Hi Ingo Swann Remote Viewed ET Human Bio Androids on the Moon !
Hi Voronezh, Russia UFO Landing Robot Escorted Three-Eyed Aliens !
Hi Canadian UFO investigator Jim Moroney's Aliens that had the
Industrial Revolution and then the Communications Revolution and now
that particular species of ETs tech is somewhere after 70 Revolutions
!
Hi all you other 57,118 other Species of Extraterrestrials !
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Is this your version of ITS (Intellectual Tourette Syndrome)?

At least contributor "American" is being topic constructive, whereas
you seem to be fading in and out of whatever drugged mindset that's
doing a damn fine job of keeping K12s form getting anywhere near to
these Usenet/newsgroups. Of course "Uncle Steve" is on your same food-
fight level of being as disruptive as possible.
Uncle Steve
2012-11-08 16:00:11 UTC
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by Sir Gilligan Horry
Nice example of actual gibberish. �One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
Hi Uncle Steve !
Hi Aratzio ! �:)
Hi Charles D. Bohne in the After Life !
Hi Mr HVAC Psychologist !
�(I quit coffee and am now happy)
Hi Doctor Sir Artie !
Hi Gaia !
Hi Alexa !
Hi Creator !
Hi Art Bell !
Hi Sheldan !
Hi John Lear !
Hi Mothwomen !
Hi Dimensional Beings !
Hi Planet Iarga Aliens !
Hi Flatwoods Monster Aliens !
Hi Allagash Abduction Aliens !
Hi Sir Gilligan Horry Talking to Myself !
Hi Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter Aliens !
Hi Cute Japanese Chicks in Fukushima !
Hi Cennina Landing and Encounter Aliens !
Hi Travis Walton Non-Human and Human Aliens !
Hi "Antonio Villas Boas" Encounter and Aliens !
Hi Dr. Jonathan Reed's Multi-Dimensional Aliens !
Hi Alec Newald and Zeena with all the other Aliens !
Hi Dr. Roger K. Leir and "UFO Crash in Brazil" Aliens !
Hi Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, Aliens and Robots !
Hi Ingo Swann Remote Viewed ET Human Bio Androids on the Moon !
Hi Voronezh, Russia UFO Landing Robot Escorted Three-Eyed Aliens !
Hi Canadian UFO investigator Jim Moroney's Aliens that had the
Industrial Revolution and then the Communications Revolution and now
that particular species of ETs tech is somewhere after 70 Revolutions
!
Hi all you other 57,118 other Species of Extraterrestrials !
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseView.asp?section=Encounter&offse...
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Best Aliens UFOs Videos Proof Evidence...http://BestAliensUFOsVideos.blogspot.com
Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency
Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva.
Beautiful Documentary ...http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html
Double UFOblow!! Triple UFOblow!!! ALIENSblow Dr. Steven M. http://youtu.be/EMzDpC4-liQ
"Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...http://ProjectMotherShip.medianewsonline.comhttp://BestUFOVideosOnYouTube.site11.com
Is this your version of ITS (Intellectual Tourette Syndrome)?
At least contributor "American" is being topic constructive, whereas
you seem to be fading in and out of whatever drugged mindset that's
doing a damn fine job of keeping K12s form getting anywhere near to
these Usenet/newsgroups. Of course "Uncle Steve" is on your same food-
fight level of being as disruptive as possible.
Allow me to show you how proper English sentences are constructed.
While it is sometimes reasonable to inform know-nothing shit-for-
brains assholes about their characteristic mental defects, it does not
require word salad to do so. Your example of bullshit English is
precisely the sort of thing that compromises the very message you
purport to advance. I think it is reasonable to say that the primary
motive for your Usenet presence is to cast aspersions on the very
things you write about. Of course you are including a fair bit of
delusional drivel in your messages, but from time to time you say
things which are nominally true. No doubt, untutored readers will
classify the good with the bad if they even bother to read your
messages at all.

I'd say things are not looking good for your breed of brave
disinformation warriors.


Regards,

Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends. My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone. Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration. I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor. I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card. If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
Brad Guth
2012-11-08 17:38:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Uncle Steve
Post by Brad Guth
Post by Sir Gilligan Horry
Nice example of actual gibberish. One can only speculate as to the
reason you make reference to "red" and "blue" shift in the context of
your delusional bullshit, but I suppose you're trying to confuse the
idiots who will associate those colours with the political parties.
You're obviously a member of the "EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT"
party.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
Hi Uncle Steve !
Hi Aratzio ! :)
Hi Charles D. Bohne in the After Life !
Hi Mr HVAC Psychologist !
(I quit coffee and am now happy)
Hi Doctor Sir Artie !
Hi Gaia !
Hi Alexa !
Hi Creator !
Hi Art Bell !
Hi Sheldan !
Hi John Lear !
Hi Mothwomen !
Hi Dimensional Beings !
Hi Planet Iarga Aliens !
Hi Flatwoods Monster Aliens !
Hi Allagash Abduction Aliens !
Hi Sir Gilligan Horry Talking to Myself !
Hi Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter Aliens !
Hi Cute Japanese Chicks in Fukushima !
Hi Cennina Landing and Encounter Aliens !
Hi Travis Walton Non-Human and Human Aliens !
Hi "Antonio Villas Boas" Encounter and Aliens !
Hi Dr. Jonathan Reed's Multi-Dimensional Aliens !
Hi Alec Newald and Zeena with all the other Aliens !
Hi Dr. Roger K. Leir and "UFO Crash in Brazil" Aliens !
Hi Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, Aliens and Robots !
Hi Ingo Swann Remote Viewed ET Human Bio Androids on the Moon !
Hi Voronezh, Russia UFO Landing Robot Escorted Three-Eyed Aliens !
Hi Canadian UFO investigator Jim Moroney's Aliens that had the
Industrial Revolution and then the Communications Revolution and now
that particular species of ETs tech is somewhere after 70 Revolutions
!
Hi all you other 57,118 other Species of Extraterrestrials !
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseView.asp?section=Encounter&offse...
__________________
Alt Alien Research Intelligence Agency Official Admiral Wizzard.
(i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/SirGilliganHorry/Alien_UFO_Research_Intelligence_Agency.jpg)
... here...http://goo.gl/A7l9U
One Million U.F.O Researchers Project...http://MillionUFOs.blogspot.com
Best Aliens UFOs Videos Proof Evidence...http://BestAliensUFOsVideos.blogspot.com
Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency
Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva.
Beautiful Documentary ...http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html
Double UFOblow!! Triple UFOblow!!! ALIENSblow Dr. Steven M. http://youtu.be/EMzDpC4-liQ
"Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...http://ProjectMotherShip.medianewsonline.comhttp://BestUFOVideosOnYou...
Is this your version of ITS (Intellectual Tourette Syndrome)?
At least contributor "American" is being topic constructive, whereas
you seem to be fading in and out of whatever drugged mindset that's
doing a damn fine job of keeping K12s form getting anywhere near to
these Usenet/newsgroups.  Of course "Uncle Steve" is on your same food-
fight level of being as disruptive as possible.
Allow me to show you how proper English sentences are constructed.
While it is sometimes reasonable to inform know-nothing shit-for-
brains assholes about their characteristic mental defects, it does not
require word salad to do so.  Your example of bullshit English is
precisely the sort of thing that compromises the very message you
purport to advance.  I think it is reasonable to say that the primary
motive for your Usenet presence is to cast aspersions on the very
things you write about.  Of course you are including a fair bit of
delusional drivel in your messages, but from time to time you say
things which are nominally true.  No doubt, untutored readers will
classify the good with the bad if they even bother to read your
messages at all.
I'd say things are not looking good for your breed of brave
disinformation warriors.
Regards,
Uncle Steve
--
Sad news, my lo-al fr-ends.  My doctor has diagnosed can-er of the
funny-bone.  Chemother-py has failed, and so it was removed last night
in a difficult op-ration.  I am now on an organ-donor waiting list,
which now is my last hope to regain a sense of h-mor.  I urge you,
especially if you are com-dian, to sign your organ-donor card.  If you
are hit by a bus tomorrow, the h-mor you save may be your own.
What has any of that feedback context have to do with:
"The Redshift that’s an observed variable"

Are you suggesting that in cosmology or astrophysics, that everything
has to be spelled out as only properly that of English formatted, in
order to suit your closed mindset interpretations?

How is your better "bullshit English" any more correct, especially
when it never involves anything new or improved, nor much less
offering a revision of anything mainstream status quo?

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