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Helium (4He) helps to destroy our protective ozone (O3)
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Brad Guth
13 years ago
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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?

When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.

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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
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Helium depletion or peak helium is nearly upon us, though all we have
to do is continually ignore it and it’ll literally go away. By 2050
the maximum world extraction rate of helium depletion will peak at
50000 tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the current rate is 3e7 kg/year.
The drop-off or cutoff will likely be steeper unless it’s discovered
that the geology of our planet has been holding out on us.
http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm

Of course this volume doesn’t include the natural diffusion as
geology leakage taking place that’s required in order to sustain the
5.24 ppm of atmospheric saturation. Using the physics of fusion to
artificially create He4 from hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of
time, but it too will be somewhat spendy because fusion is also the
ultimate WMD.

He3 is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons. Problems is, unlike He4, He3 is already spendy as
hell because our shielded planet has hardly any of that element, and
thus far we have managed to toss away the bulk of our He4 within
natural gas that also includes a very small proportion of He3 (no
wonder our protective layer of ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over
either pole).

Unlike our naked moon, our shielded Earth has very little He3 as is,
and we're running ourselves out of He4 within the next three decades
or at least by 2050 it could become practically nonexistent other than
whatever thorium and uranium are capable of producing, that’s being
suggested as limited to as little as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our
future needs if 100% of that helium could even be captured, though I'd
kind of doubt we could manage to capture .0001% before it leaks off
and gets blown away by the solar wind). In other words, He4 is
literally on its way out, and the rate of natural replenishment isn’t
going to be .0001% sufficient unless we can manage to artificially
create helium.

Even if the natural rate of He4 replenishment were capable of 3e7 kg/
year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is still only worth 3e4 kg/
year. The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes of He4 without any
reserves, or 1e5 kg, which that one alone exceeds the naturally
produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all sorts of other commercial,
aerospace, research and retail needs for helium. Shale gas via
fracking probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other
nations catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own
foreign exchange disparity, the future demand for this element of
helium could reach 3e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Another shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world:
As for carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts
of applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements that can be artificially obtained and
processed into just about anything.

A question I have: Are you and other Oligarch Rothschilds planning on
waiting until the very last terrestrial tonne of everything of any
value is about to run out? (at which time you ZNRs may have to fake
and/or false-flag us into another war in order to artificially inflate
the global price via hoarding and insider market speculation, plus
otherwise steal the scarce remainder of helium, diamond and heavy rare
element metals from others)

Of course, while obtaining off-world helium(s), there will be many
other elements of extremely valuable rare-earths that will have to
also get processed and put into terrestrial circulation, unless you're
planning on speculating and hoarding those as well.

By going off-world, many rare and valuable elements and complex
solutions can be discovered, excavated and/or processed on the fly (so
to speak) and transferred back to Earth. Of course that’s not going
to happen as long as we keep the old guard of oligarchs in charge and
never bother to look back.

The still unexplained loss of our OCO mission of Earth science
(unusually similar to other previous failures) is perhaps just another
prime example of how we’re being kept uninformed and mislead into
believing only whatever our handlers want us to believe, as usually
configures as for making them look super good and way smarter than the
rest of us.

Those lakes under thick Antarctica ice remain fluid not because of our
planet having a sun, nor having anything to do with our AGW, but only
because of the ongoing 64+ TW of residual heat that’s mostly from
geophysical modulation plus fission within Earth. A certain amount of
gravity tidal modulation that’s keeping our flexible planet a little
extra warm from the inside out, at an average surface bedrock heat
loss of perhaps 128 mw/m2. From the surface, we humans manage to add
roughly half again that amount of thermal energy to everything from
the surface on up (still considerably less than what nature
contributes), and of course we have our sun that’s less than ideally
stable, plus our nifty moon that’s contributing via its own 2e20 N of
tidal force modulating throughout the whole fluid body of our planet,
which may help to explain where some of the internal heat is coming
from besides a core and mantel of fission that’s responsible for
creating our helium that we’re about to run ourselves out of a
sufficient annual volume, because the vast majority of this helium has
is simply been vented.

Of course our modern day K12s and most others are no longer getting
educated as smart enough to care about any natural or artificial loss
of helium, just like the Semites and Oligarchs could care less if all
the natural ice on Earth melted, and ocean levels increased by tens of
meters or whatever extreme weather of storms and/or droughts were ten
fold worse off. I mean to suggest, when these Oligarch Rothschilds
own a fleet of business jets and Mega Yachts plus multiple villas in
addition to several multimillion dollar condos around the world, is
why they really don’t have to worry if any one of those habitats is
inconvenienced or disrupted by extreme weather or getting flooded out
because of rising ocean levels.

On Apr 24, 6:53 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <***@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: well, so, What?
: : I replied;
: : He4 migrates directly through ozone. It doesn't bind, it dilutes
: : or displaces ozone as well as it acts as a molecular lubricant.

The "well, so, What?" is that our government and its faith-based mafia
of Oligarch Semites that get to operate as public-funded overlords and
robber barons regardless of whomever we elect or appoint, have been
telling us another pack of lies upon lies, as well as creating and
sustaining wars, costing us millions of lives plus trillions of our
hard earned loot, and ultimately they seem intent upon keeping us from
going off-world until they've fully exploited this planet and gotten
every last drop of blood and dime out of us.

Obviously that doesn't bother those that never want their white-washed
Semitic Oligarch version of history to ever get investigated and/or
revised in order to suit the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

The really good news, is that by 2050 those holes in our protective
ozone layer should start to close up, because there will have been a
sudden and significant reduction of released helium, with perhaps 99%
of the remaining helium getting recycled, as it should have been as of
decades ago.

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It’s happening now... except Targeted Individuals won’t allow it to wait until cloned white babies are born. Supernatural is the only way to describe this event...!
Hägar
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"Brad Guth" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d0587f6f-ac9d-485a-b045-***@jx17g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?

When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.

******************************************
Get real, GuthBall ... it is the 6 plus Billion humans exhaling CO2
that's causing all that havoc ... oh, don't forget second-hand smoke and cow
fartz .....
Brad Guth
13 years ago
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Post by Brad Guth
How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
        ******************************************
Get real, GuthBall ... it is the 6 plus Billion humans exhaling CO2
that's causing all that havoc ... oh, don't forget second-hand smoke and cow
fartz .....
How far up in the atmosphere does our CO2 get?
Hägar
13 years ago
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Post by Brad Guth
How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
******************************************
Get real, GuthBall ... it is the 6 plus Billion humans exhaling CO2
that's causing all that havoc ... oh, don't forget second-hand smoke and cow
fartz .....
How far up in the atmosphere does our CO2 get?


*** Depends on how hard the wind blows, asshole ... traces of
Mt. St. Helen's volcanic ash were been found circling the globe at altitudes
of up to 80,000 feet ... so why couldn't CO2 get there ??
Brad Guth
13 years ago
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...
It could (especially via tornadoes or hurricanes), except CO2 is a
heavy element that binds with H2O, and then it rains H2CO3.

Basically, the higher up the lower and dryer the CO2 concentration
gets.
Hägar
13 years ago
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...
It could (especially via tornadoes or hurricanes), except CO2 is a
heavy element that binds with H2O, and then it rains H2CO3.

< snip >

*** So is volcanic ash ... most of it eventually winds up on the ground. So
... what was your point ???
Brad Guth
13 years ago
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...
Physical ash is relatively heavy, inert and can't possibly make holes
in our ozone like He4 can do. Such ash actually enriches soil, but
too much CO2 and water is what makes soil and our oceans acidic.
Double-A
13 years ago
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Post by Brad Guth
Post by Brad Guth
How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
        ******************************************
Get real, GuthBall ... it is the 6 plus Billion humans exhaling CO2
that's causing all that havoc ... oh, don't forget second-hand smoke and cow
fartz .....
How far up in the atmosphere does our CO2 get?
Good question. It is a heavier gas than "air" and will accumulate in
low places like wells.

Double-A
Brad Guth
13 years ago
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The treeline is kind of indicating how far up the vast bulk of CO2
ever gets. Much above the mountain treeline it's probably free of CO2
unless weather/updrafts is blowing it up there.

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...
The treeline is kind of indicating how far up the vast bulk of CO2
ever gets. Much above the mountain treeline it's probably free of CO2
unless weather/updrafts is blowing it up there.


*** The tree line is usually dictated by temperature, not the amount of
available CO2 ... If you don't believe that, check out the North Slope of
Alaska ...
Brad Guth
13 years ago
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Yes, but still planets such as mountain trees need CO2 in order to
grow and survive.

At elevation above a given tropical treeline, the CO2 is significantly
less than at sea-level or ground-level. Smog generally contains a
greater concentration of CO2 (make that H2CO3 if it's the least bit
humid or foggy) than clear and dry mountain air above the local
treeline.

Are you suggesting the concentrations of CO2 and H2CO3 is the same at
any altitude?

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
http://www.greatenergychallengeblog.com/2012/05/02/the-heat-goes-on-co2-reaches-another-high-water-mark/
http://feww.wordpress.com/tag/ground-level-ozone/

It's not all bad:
http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/40976/PDF
"On an average, elevated [CO2] (627 ppm) increased rice yields by
23%."

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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
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Helium depletion or peak helium is nearly upon us, though all we have
to do is ignore it and it’ll literally go away. By 2050 the maximum
world extraction rate of helium depletion will peak at 50000
tonnes(5e7 kg), whereas the current rate is 3e7 kg/year. The drop-off
or cutoff will likely be steeper unless it’s discovered that the
geology of our planet has been holding out on us.
http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm

Of course this volume doesn’t include the natural diffusion as
leakage that’s required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm of
atmospheric saturation. Using the physics oif fusion to artificially
create He4 from hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of time, but it
too will be somewhat spendy because fusion is also the ultimate WMD.

He3 is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons. Problems is, unlike He4, He3 is already spendy as
hell because our shielded planet has hardly any of that element, and
thus far we have managed to toss away the bulk of our He4 within
natural gas that also includes a very small proportion of He3 (no
wonder our protective layer of ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over
either pole).

Unlike our naked moon, our shielded Earth has very little He3 as is,
and we're running ourselves out of He4 within the next three decades
or at least by 2050 it could become practically nonexistent other than
whatever thorium and uranium are capable of producing, that’s being
suggested as limited to as little as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our
future needs if 100% of that helium could even be captured, though I'd
kind of doubt we could manage to capture .0001% before it leaks off
and gets blown away by the solar wind). In other words, He4 is
literally on its way out, and the rate of natural replenishment isn’t
going to be .0001% sufficient unless we can manage to artificially
create helium.

Even if the natural rate of He4 replenishment were capable of 3e7 kg/
year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is still only worth 3e4 kg/
year. The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes of He4 without any
reserves, or 1e5 kg, which that one alone exceeds the naturally
produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all sorts of other commercial,
aerospace, research and retail needs for helium. Shale gas via
fracking probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other
nations catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own
foreign exchange disparity, the future demand for this element of
helium could reach 3e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Another shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world:
As for carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts
of applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements that can be artificially obtained and
processed into just about anything.

A question I have: Are you and other Oligarch Rothschilds planning on
waiting until the very last terrestrial tonne of everything of any
value is about to run out? (at which time you ZNRs may have to fake
and/or false-flag us into another war in order to artificially inflate
the global price via hoarding and insider market speculation, plus
otherwise steal the scarce remainder of helium, diamond and heavy rare
element metals from others)

Of course, while obtaining off-world helium(s), there will be many
other elements of extremely valuable rare-earths that will have to
also get processed and put into terrestrial circulation, unless you're
planning on speculating and hoarding those as well.

By going off-world, many rare and valuable elements and complex
solutions can be discovered, excavated and/or processed on the fly (so
to speak) and transferred back to Earth. Of course that’s not going
to happen as long as we keep the old guard of oligarchs in charge and
never bother to look back.

The still unexplained loss of our OCO mission of Earth science
(unusually similar to other previous failures) is perhaps just another
prime example of how we’re being kept uninformed and mislead into
believing only whatever our handlers want us to believe, as usually
configures as for making them look super good and way smarter than the
rest of us.

Those lakes under thick Antarctica ice remain fluid not because of our
planet having a sun, nor having anything to do with our AGW, but only
because of the ongoing 64+ TW of residual heat that’s mostly from
geophysical modulation plus fission within Earth. A certain amount of
gravity tidal modulation that’s keeping our flexible planet a little
extra warm from the inside out, at an average surface bedrock heat
loss of perhaps 128 mw/m2. From the surface, we humans manage to add
roughly half again that amount of thermal energy to everything from
the surface on up (still considerably less than what nature
contributes), and of course we have our sun that’s less than ideally
stable, plus our nifty moon that’s contributing via its own 2e20 N of
tidal force modulating throughout the whole fluid body of our planet,
which may help to explain where some of the internal heat is coming
from besides a core and mantel of fission that’s responsible for
creating our helium that we’re about to run ourselves out of a
sufficient annual volume, because the vast majority of this helium has
is simply been vented.

Of course our modern day K12s and most others are no longer getting
educated as smart enough to care about any natural or artificial loss
of helium, just like the Semites and Oligarchs could care less if all
the natural ice on Earth melted, and ocean levels increased by tens of
meters or whatever extreme weather of storms and/or droughts were ten
fold worse off. I mean to suggest, when these Oligarch Rothschilds
own a fleet of business jets and Mega Yachts plus multiple villas in
addition to several multimillion dollar condos around the world, is
why they really don’t have to worry if any one of those habitats is
inconvenienced or disrupted by extreme weather or getting flooded out
because of rising ocean levels.

On Apr 24, 6:53 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <***@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: well, so, What?
: : I replied;
: : He4 migrates directly through ozone. It doesn't bind, it dilutes
: : or displaces ozone as well as it acts as a molecular lubricant.

The "well, so, What?" is that our government and its faith-based mafia
of Oligarch Semites that get to operate as public-funded overlords and
robber barons regardless of whomever we elect or appoint, have been
telling us another pack of lies upon lies, as well as creating and
sustaining wars, costing us millions of lives plus trillions of our
hard earned loot, and ultimately they seem intent upon keeping us from
going off-world until they've fully exploited this planet and gotten
every last drop of blood and dime out of us.

Obviously that doesn't bother those that never want their white-washed
Semitic Oligarch version of history to ever get investigated and/or
revised in order to suit the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

The really good news, is that by 2050 those holes in our protective
ozone layer should start to close up, because there will have been a
sudden and significant reduction of released helium, with perhaps 99%
of the remaining helium getting recycled, as it should have been as of
decades ago.

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American
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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
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Commercial airliners fly in the stratosphere to optimize fuel burn, so
why not design a massive low-low earth orbit infrastructure, and place
it right in the middle of the Antarctic, ozone-rich stratosphere?
Propellant fumes can be filtered to produce only O3 exhaust 24/7,
which would more than make up for the ozone hole phenomenon:

Element / Symbol / Mole Percent

Nitrogen / N2 / 78.084
Oxygen /O2 / 20.947
Argon / Ar / 0.934
Carbon Dioxide / CO2 / 0.035
Neon / Ne / 0.00182
Helium / He / 0.00052
Methane / CH4 / 0.00017
Krypton / Kr / 0.00011
Hydrogen / H2 / 0.00005
Nitrous Oxide / N2O / 0.00003
Xenon / Xe / 0.00001
Ozone / O3 / trace to 0.00080
American
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...
Combo gas-fueled and solar energized 'balloon cities' utilizing super-
thin mylar-type solar cells on the outer surface of the balloon, could
also act as a shield and/or filter for incoming radiation from the
ozone holes. A not-too-similar rendition of what living on a balloon
world would be like:



...with the exception that we're talking about much higher elevations:

http://projectedgar.jamestrosh.com/tagged/launch

Greater "landscape opportunities" lie in the earth's orbital region.
200% more immigrants capable of spanning an area the size of Low-Low
Earth Orbit (approx. 18 miles up, equals 6,445 miles, center of earth
radius to LEO), with an LEO spherical surface area = 4(3.14159)
(6,445)^2 = 522,142,541.47 square miles – this window of opportunity
is more than 3 times the earth ocean surface area. What prison planet
could possibly police that large quantity of territory?
Brad Guth
13 years ago
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That's a good idea, but because our planet is kind of running on
fumes, we still need to stop wasting our precious helium.

We may have hydrocarbons to burn for centuries to come, but
terrestrial helium isn't going to get us much past 2050 (if that far).

China, India, Russia and the EU could easily cause the global demand
on helium to go ten fold within this decade.

Even if the average extracted natural gas volume were 0.1% He4, is a
hell of a lot of vented helium.

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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
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Another good thing about exploiting the extremely nearby planet Venus,
is that it seems to have had way more than its fair share of helium,
namely 12 ppm just within its extremely thick and dense atmosphere,
not to mention numerous surface geothermal vents and likely internal
gas pockets that could be easily tapped. The innards of Venus could
be holding 1e16 kg if not 1e17 kg of 4He that’s not worth all that
much today, although by 2050 this shortage of He4 could become quite
another issue.

Our helium depletion or peak helium is nearly upon us, though all we
have to do is continually ignore it and it’ll literally go away. By
2050 the maximum world extraction rate of helium depletion will peak
at 50000 tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the current rate of depletion is
estimated as 3.6e7 kg/year. The drop-off or cutoff will likely be a
whole lot steeper if there’s a ten fold increase in demand, unless
it’s discovered that the geology of our planet that supposedly has
only 7e9 kg, is holding out on us.
http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm
http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/09/discovery-of-huge-helium-reserves-at.html
“Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company (POGC) announced today that it has
discovered the world's biggest helium reserve in its South Pars gas
field. POGC estimated the volume of South Pars helium reserves at 10
billion cubic meters, approximately 25 percent of the world’s known
reserves [Mehr News Agency, 30 September]. The South Pars gas field is
shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar is already producing some helium. The
US is the world's leading supplier of helium, followed by Algeria.

The world’s annual production of helium is approximately 200 million
cubic meters. The main use of the gas is in cryogenic applications,
particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets in MRI
scanners. Helium is also the gas of choice to fill airships and
blimps.”
-

No doubt India also has access to substantial natural gas fields
offering a high percentage of helium, however, if the global helium
demand increases by ten fold (as it likely will), thereby the
extraction of 3.6e8 kg/year becoming necessary, could deplete the vast
bulk of everything we know of (1e10 kg) within as little as 25 years.
So, perhaps we’ll have to start accusing India and Iran’s Pars Oil and
Gas Company (POGC) of sponsoring terrorism or hiding WMD, and/or if
nothing else we can always accuse them of hoarding uranium and thorium
reserves for evil reasons of their own global domination. In other
words, besides the vast wealth of liquid and gas hydrocarbons under
Islamic and Muslim ownership and control, it seems that they also have
a treasure trove of valuable helium plus the necessary uranium and
thorium reserves to boot.

Of course this interpreted volume doesn’t even include the natural
diffusion as geology leakage taking place that’s required in order to
sustain the 5.24 ppm of atmospheric saturation. Using the physics of
fusion to artificially create He4 from hydrogen may arrive just in the
nick of time, but it too will be somewhat spendy because fusion is
also the ultimate WMD.

He3 is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons. Problems is, unlike He4, He3 is already spendy as
hell because our shielded planet has hardly any of that element, and
thus far we have managed to toss away the bulk of our He4 within
natural gas that also includes a very small proportion of He3 (no
wonder our protective layer of ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over
either pole).

Unlike our naked moon, our shielded Earth has very little He3 as is,
and we're running ourselves out of He4 within the next three decades
or at least by 2050 it could become practically nonexistent other than
whatever thorium and uranium are capable of producing, that’s being
suggested as limited to as little as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our
future needs if 100% of that helium could even be captured, though I'd
kind of doubt we could manage to capture .0001% before it leaks off
and gets blown away by the solar wind). In other words, He4 is
literally on its way out, and the rate of natural replenishment isn’t
going to be .0001% sufficient unless we can manage to artificially
create helium.

Even if the natural rate of He4 replenishment were capable of 3e7 kg/
year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is still only worth 3e4 kg/
year. The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes of He4 without any
reserves, or 1e5 kg, which that one alone exceeds the annually
produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all sorts of other commercial,
aerospace, research and retail needs for helium. Shale gas via
fracking probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other
nations catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own
foreign exchange disparity, the future demand for this element of
helium could reach 3.6e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Another shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world:
As for carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts
of applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements that can be artificially obtained and
processed into just about anything.

A question I have: Are you and other Oligarch Rothschilds planning on
waiting until the very last terrestrial tonne of everything of any
value is about to run out? (at which time you ZNRs may have to fake
and/or false-flag us into another war in order to artificially inflate
the global price via hoarding and insider market speculation, plus
otherwise steal the scarce remainder of helium, diamond and heavy rare
element metals from others)

Of course, while obtaining off-world helium(s), there will be many
other elements of extremely valuable rare-earths that will have to
also get processed and put into terrestrial circulation, unless you're
planning on speculating and hoarding those as well.

By going off-world, many rare and valuable elements and complex
solutions can be discovered, excavated and/or processed on the fly (so
to speak) and transferred back to Earth. Of course that’s not going
to happen as long as we keep the old guard of oligarchs in charge and
never bother to look back.

The still unexplained loss of our OCO mission of Earth science
(unusually similar to other previous failures) is perhaps just another
prime example of how we’re being kept uninformed and mislead into
believing only whatever our handlers want us to believe, as usually
configures as for making them look super good and way smarter than the
rest of us.

Those lakes under thick Antarctica ice remain fluid not because of our
planet having a sun, nor having anything to do with our AGW, but only
because of the ongoing 64+ TW of residual heat that’s mostly from
geophysical modulation plus fission within Earth. A certain amount of
gravity tidal modulation that’s keeping our flexible planet a little
extra warm from the inside out, at an average surface bedrock heat
loss of perhaps 128 mw/m2. From the surface, we humans manage to add
roughly half again that amount of thermal energy to everything from
the surface on up (still considerably less than what nature
contributes), and of course we have our sun that’s less than ideally
stable, plus our nifty moon that’s contributing via its own 2e20 N of
tidal force modulating throughout the whole fluid body of our planet,
which may help to explain where some of the internal heat is coming
from besides a core and mantel of fission that’s responsible for
creating our helium that we’re about to run ourselves out of a
sufficient annual volume, because the vast majority of this helium has
is simply been vented.

Of course our modern day K12s and most others are no longer getting
educated as smart enough to care about any natural or artificial loss
of helium, just like the Semites and Oligarchs could care less if all
the natural ice on Earth melted, and ocean levels increased by tens of
meters or whatever extreme weather of storms and/or droughts were ten
fold worse off. I mean to suggest, when these Oligarch Rothschilds
own a fleet of business jets and Mega Yachts plus multiple villas in
addition to several multimillion dollar condos around the world, is
why they really don’t have to worry if any one of those habitats is
inconvenienced or disrupted by extreme weather or getting flooded out
because of rising ocean levels.

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wrote:
: well, so, What?
: : I replied;
: : He4 migrates directly through ozone. It doesn't bind, it dilutes
: : or displaces ozone as well as it acts as a molecular lubricant.

The "well, so, What?" is that our government and its faith-based mafia
of Oligarch Semites that get to operate as public-funded overlords and
robber barons regardless of whomever we elect or appoint, have been
telling us another pack of lies upon lies, as well as creating and
sustaining wars, costing us millions of lives plus trillions of our
hard earned loot, and ultimately they seem intent upon keeping us from
going off-world until they've fully exploited this planet and gotten
every last drop of blood and dime out of us.

Obviously that doesn't bother those that never want their white-washed
Semitic Oligarch version of history to ever get investigated and/or
revised in order to suit the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

The really good news, is that by 2050 those holes in our protective
ozone layer should start to close up, because there will have been a
sudden and significant reduction of released helium, with perhaps 99%
of the remaining helium getting recycled, as it should have been as of
decades ago.

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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes in our protective ozone layer.
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Here’s another good thing about exploiting the extremely nearby planet
Venus, is that it seems to have had way more than its fair share of
helium, namely 12 ppm (as opposed to our 5.2 ppm) just within its
extremely thick and dense atmosphere, not to mention numerous surface
geothermal vents and likely internal gas pockets that could be easily
tapped. The innards of Venus could be holding 1e16 kg if not 1e17 kg
of 4He that’s currently not worth all that much, although by 2050 this
terrestrial shortage of He4 could become quite another issue.

Our helium depletion or peak helium era is nearly upon us, though all
we have to do is continually ignore it and it’ll literally go away.
By 2050 the maximum world extraction rate of helium will peak at 50000
tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the current rate of depletion is
estimated as 3.6e7 kg/year. However, the drop-off or cutoff will
likely be a whole lot sooner and much steeper if there’s a ten fold
increase in demand, unless it’s discovered that the geology of our
planet that supposedly has only at most 1e10 kg to spare, is holding
out on us.
http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm
http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/09/discovery-of-huge-helium-reserves-at.html
“Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company (POGC) announced today that it has
discovered the world's biggest helium reserve in its South Pars gas
field. POGC estimated the volume of South Pars helium reserves at 10
billion cubic meters, approximately 25 percent of the world’s known
reserves [Mehr News Agency, 30 September]. The South Pars gas field is
shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar is already producing some helium. The
US is the world's leading supplier of helium, followed by Algeria.

The world’s annual production of helium is approximately 200 million
cubic meters. The main use of the gas is in cryogenic applications,
particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets in MRI
scanners. Helium is also the gas of choice to fill airships and
blimps.”
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No doubt India also has access to substantial natural gas fields
offering a high percentage of helium, however, if the global helium
demand should increases by ten fold (as it likely will), and thereby
the extraction of 3.6e8 kg/year becoming necessary, could deplete the
vast bulk of everything we know of (1e10 kg) within as little as 28
years. So, perhaps we’ll have to start accusing India and Iran’s Pars
Oil and Gas Company (POGC) of sponsoring terrorism or hiding WMD, and/
or if nothing else we can always accuse them of hoarding uranium and
thorium reserves for evil extortion reasons of promoting their own
global domination. In other words, besides the vast wealth of liquid
and natural gas hydrocarbons under Islamic and Muslim ownership and
control, it seems that they also have a treasure trove of soon to be
extremely valuable helium, plus their having the necessary uranium and
thorium reserves to boot means that their future of thorium powered
energy that’s relatively failsafe and cheap is a done deal.

Of course this interpreted volume of commercially extracted He4
doesn’t even include the natural diffusion as natural geology leakage
taking place, that’s required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm of
atmospheric saturation. Perhaps using the physics of fusion to
artificially create He4 from hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of
time, but it too will be somewhat spendy because fusion is also the
ultimate WMD.

He3 is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons. Problems is, unlike He4, He3 is already spendy as
hell because our shielded planet has hardly any of that element, and
thus far we have managed to toss away the bulk of our He4 within
natural gas that also includes a small proportion of He3 (no wonder
our protective layer of ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over either
pole).

Unlike our naked moon that should be loaded with He3, our shielded
Earth has relatively little of that element, plus we're running
ourselves out of He4 within the next three decades or at least by 2050
it could become practically nonexistent other than whatever thorium
and uranium are capable of producing, that’s being suggested as
limited to as little as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our future needs if
100% of that helium could even be captured, though I'd kind of doubt
we could manage to capture .0001% before it leaks off and gets blown
away by the solar wind). In other words, He4 and He3 are literally on
their way out, and the rate of natural replenishment of He4 isn’t
going to be .0001% sufficient unless we can manage to artificially
create helium and without that method being too spendy.

Even if the natural rate of He4 replenishment were capable of 3e7 kg/
year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is still only worth 3e4 kg/
year. The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes of He4 without any
reserves, or 1e5 kg, which that one alone exceeds the annually
produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all sorts of other commercial,
aerospace, research and retail needs for helium. Shale gas via
fracking probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other
nations catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own
foreign exchange disparity, the future demand for this element of
helium could reach 3.6e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Another shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world:
As for carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts
of applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements that can be artificially obtained and
processed into just about anything.

A question I have: Are you and other Oligarch Rothschilds planning on
waiting until the very last terrestrial tonne of everything of any
value is about to run out? (at which time you ZNRs may have to fake
and/or false-flag us into another war in order to artificially inflate
the global price via hoarding and insider market speculation, plus
otherwise steal the scarce remainder of helium, diamond and heavy rare
element metals from others)

Of course, while obtaining off-world helium(s), there will be many
other elements of extremely valuable rare-earths that will have to
also get processed and put into terrestrial circulation, unless you're
planning on speculating and hoarding those as well.

By going off-world, many rare and valuable elements and complex
solutions can be discovered, excavated and/or processed on the fly (so
to speak) and transferred back to Earth. Of course that’s not going
to happen as long as we keep the old guard of oligarchs in charge and
never bother to look back.

The still unexplained loss of our OCO mission of Earth science
(unusually similar to other previous failures) is perhaps just another
prime example of how we’re being kept uninformed and mislead into
believing only whatever our handlers want us to believe, as usually
configures as for making them look super good and way smarter than the
rest of us.

Those lakes under thick Antarctica ice remain fluid not because of our
planet having a sun, nor having anything to do with our AGW, but only
because of the ongoing 64+ TW of residual heat that’s mostly from
geophysical modulation plus fission within Earth. A certain amount of
gravity tidal modulation that’s keeping our flexible planet a little
extra warm from the inside out, at an average surface bedrock heat
loss of perhaps 128 mw/m2. From the surface, we humans manage to add
roughly half again that amount of thermal energy to everything from
the surface on up (still considerably less than what nature
contributes), and of course we have our sun that’s less than ideally
stable, plus our nifty moon that’s contributing via its own 2e20 N of
tidal force modulating throughout the whole fluid body of our planet,
which may help to explain where some of the internal heat is coming
from besides a core and mantel of fission that’s responsible for
creating our helium that we’re about to run ourselves out of a
sufficient annual volume, because the vast majority of this helium has
is simply been vented.

Of course our modern day K12s and most others are no longer getting
educated as smart enough to care about any natural or artificial loss
of helium, just like the Semites and Oligarchs could care less if all
the natural ice on Earth melted, and ocean levels increased by tens of
meters or whatever extreme weather of storms and/or droughts were ten
fold worse off. I mean to suggest, when these Oligarch Rothschilds
own a fleet of business jets and Mega Yachts plus multiple villas in
addition to several multimillion dollar condos around the world, is
why they really don’t have to worry if any one of those habitats is
inconvenienced or disrupted by extreme weather or getting flooded out
because of rising ocean levels.

On Apr 24, 6:53 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <***@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: well, so, What?
: : I replied;
: : He4 migrates directly through ozone. It doesn't bind, it dilutes
: : or displaces ozone as well as it acts as a molecular lubricant.

The "well, so, What?" is that our government and its faith-based mafia
of Oligarch Semites that get to operate as public-funded overlords and
robber barons regardless of whomever we elect or appoint, have been
telling us another pack of lies upon lies, as well as having been
creating and sustaining wars, costing us millions of lives plus
trillions of our hard earned loot, and ultimately they seem intent
upon keeping us from going off-world until they've fully exploited
this planet and gotten every last drop of blood and dime out of us.

Obviously that doesn't bother those that never want their white-washed
Semitic Oligarch version of history to ever get investigated and/or
forbid ever revised in order to suit the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.

The really good news, is that by 2050 those holes in our protective
ozone layer should start to close up, because there will have been a
sudden and significant reduction of released helium, along with
perhaps 99% of our remaining commercial helium getting recycled,
exactly as it should have been as of decades ago and before having
made those polar ozone holes worse than ever.

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In rethinking this one, perhaps the sooner we deplete our 1e10 kg
global cache of He4 the better off for the greater biodiversity of our
planet that needs its protective ozone layer, even though mother
nature has likely been (up till now) contributing at least ten fold as
much He4 to the atmosphere as us. Our reduction of venting or
otherwise not wasting He4 should make a tipping-point kind of
measurable difference in closing up those polar ozone holes that
really don’t need any extra lingering or migrating molecules of helium
passing through. In other words, the complex biodiversity on our
world may need its O3 worse than its He4 (not that there’s anything we
can effectively do to restrict the natural geological diffusion and
subsequent loss of helium from deep within).

My deductive thought all along, is why ignore and subsequently waste
such a nifty and versatile element like He4, not to mention it’s
extremely minor sibling of He3.

For a little extra argument sake; If there were only 3.154e8 kg being
naturally diffused as leaking away from Earth (at 10 kg/sec
maintaining our 5.24 ppm atmospheric saturation), and if the
originating source of uranium and thorium was only capable of
contributing 10% of that amount, seems to suggest that such lofty
helium that doesn’t bond with anything (including itself) is being
held captive within our atmosphere by something more complex than it’s
molecular specific gravity which isn’t hardly worth squat.

I’m rethinking along the lines of Earth having been naturally
releasing 3.154e9 kg/year, which amounts to 100 kg/sec that might be
required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm, because even that amount
works out to an average outflux of less than 2e-13 kg/m2/sec. Of
course this would also have to suggest the innards of Earth’s uranium
and thorium cache being of considerably greater volume and mass in
order to keep up with even 10% of that amount (100 times greater than
previously thought).

Since there is still no direct/objective science on quantifying the
natural plus artificial global loss of helium, is what leaves some of
us guessing and otherwise attempting to connect the dots, because our
mainstream mantra of having been specifying a resource of only 3e6 kg/
year seems hardly sufficient if that internal cache of uranium and
thorium were the one and only source for having created all of this
lofty helium to begin with. So, either there’s a much greater volume
and mass of uranium and thorium plus a few other elements producing
helium, or the innards of our planet has more leaky geode pockets of
its original creation helium stashed away, just sitting there as
leaking and otherwise waiting for us to tap into.

Keeping in mind that even if the average extracted volume of natural
gas were only 0.1% He4, is actually going to represent a hell of a lot
of artificially pass-through or vented helium, not to mention all of
the natural geothermal gas vents continually taking place. At any
rate, eventually our planet should become helium deficient long before
our hydrocarbons run out, and those off-world alternatives will then
become necessary regardless of their added expense or possibly much
lower cost than anyone could have imagined because the off-world
helium may be only a byproduct for obtaining those much more valuable
elements.

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It seems any mention of helium and ozone holes, as together within any
given topic, is another Usenet/newsgroup deal breaker.

Gee whiz; guess we'll have to stick with the usual mainstream
obfuscation and FUD policy of pretending we know what we're doing,
that got us into this mess to begin with, as well as pretending that
only Islamics and Muslims that don't individually use 1% as much
global resources as us are none the less at fault for everything
that's turning out badly, and otherwise that only Semites know best
about everything.

After all, the US and USSR together created North Korea, and just look
at how well that one turned out. Nowadays we're into nation-building
left and right, but only dominating within those nations as having
natural resources and terrific future wealth because our resources are
insignificant or nearly depleted.

We even created the social/political disparity that makes Muslims and
a few other ethnic groups far more affordable or simply more
competitive at extracting and processing hydrocarbons plus supplying
helium, and so much so overhead efficient that in a fair open market
we can't possibly compete without applied skulduggery of market
insiders trading and hoarding. It seems that Islamics and Muslims are
also sitting on the vast majority of easily accessible uranium and
thorium reserves, so no doubt other rare-earth elements are also
available.

So, perhaps we should start doing what they can't, and that's going
off-world. Though notice how our resident Jewish Oligarchs (aka
pretend Atheists) are always consistently opposed to any sort of off-
world exploitations that could lead to anything commercially viable
and competitive.

Apparently the last thing they want to see is any sort of private
enterprise accomplishing any sort of greater good for themselves and
humanity, or much less on behalf of salvaging our environment. Kind
of hard for them to have global domination under their Oligarch NWO if
folks are independently getting stuff accomplished and god-forbid
actually managing w/o government or any faith-based policy of upper-
lower caste disparity, as well as directly benefiting and getting
along with one-another.

In the past, wars have certainly been contrived and fought over far
less.

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It seems any mention of helium and ozone holes, as incorporated
together within any given topic, is another Usenet/newsgroup deal
breaker.

Gee whiz; guess we'll have to stick with the usual mainstream
obfuscation and FUD policy of pretending we know exactly what we're
doing, that unavoidably got us into this mess to begin with, as well
as our pretending that only Islamics and Muslims that don't
individually use 1% as much global resources as us, are none the less
at fault for everything that's turning out badly, and otherwise that
only Oligarchs/Semites know best about everything.

After all, the US and USSR together created North Korea, and just look
at how well that one turned out. Nowadays we're into nation-building
left and right, but only dominating within those nations as having
natural resources and terrific future wealth because our resources are
either insignificant or nearly depleted.

We even created the social/political disparity that makes Muslims and
a few other ethnic groups far more affordable or simply more
competitive at extracting and processing hydrocarbons plus supplying
helium, and so much so overhead efficient that in a fair open market
we can't possibly compete without applied skulduggery of market
insiders trading on behalf of speculating and hoarding. It seems that
Islamics and Muslims are also sitting on the vast majority of easily
accessible uranium and thorium reserves, and no doubt other rare-earth
elements are also available.

So, perhaps we should start doing what they can't, and that's going
off-world. Though notice how our resident Jewish Oligarchs (aka
pretend-Atheists) are always consistently opposed to any sort of off-
world exploitations that could lead to anything commercially viable
and competitive. It’s as though they haven’t quite finished
exploiting Earth, and they simply don’t want any local spoils making
the lower caste any better off, especially since their labor cost
isn’t 10% of ours.

Apparently the last thing they want to see is any sort of private
enterprise accomplishing any sort of greater good for themselves and
humanity, or much less on behalf of salvaging our environment. Kind
of hard for them Oligarchs to have global domination under their NWO
if folks are independently getting stuff accomplished and god-forbid
actually managing w/o government or any faith-based policy of
artificially creating upper-lower caste disparity, as well as directly
benefiting and getting along with one-another must go against their
faith-based satanic policy

In the past, wars have certainly been contrived and fought over far
less differences of opinion or wealth.

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How much raw helium does our planet have left to give?
When 4He displaces and otherwise lubricates those molecules of O3, we
get holes.
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How best to get rid of ozone/O3: (you fluff and lubricate it with a
bunch of lofty little atoms of 4He)

FYI; it’s helium/4He (not so much CFCs) that destroys our protective
ozone(O3). To effectively get rid of O3, simply add a molecular
dispersant/lubricant, such as an outflux of 4He that doesn’t bind to
anything.

The good news, is that within a few years of continued pillaging and
plundering of global resources, our combined natural and artificial
outflux of 4He is going to greatly diminish, whether we like it or
not, and eventually to fill a party balloon with 4He will only cost
$10.

Here’s another good thing about exploiting our moon with its exosphere
only 30,000 He/cm3, and especially the extremely nearby planet Venus
that seems to have had way more than its fair share of atmospheric
helium, namely 12 ppm (as opposed to our wussy 5.24 ppm and 95 fold
less atmospheric mass) as having 4He laced within its extremely thick
and dense atmosphere, not to mention whatever’s spewing from numerous
surface geothermal vents and likely held within internal geode gas
pockets that could be easily tapped. The innards of Venus could be
holding 1e15 kg if not 1e16 kg of 4He that’s currently not worth all
that much, although by 2050 this looming terrestrial shortage of 4He
could become quite another issue. The innards of our moon should also
have those usual volumes of 4He from its uranium and thorium fission
plus a few other fission worthy elements in addition to the cosmic
radiation influx as having been creating 3He, except for the extremely
thick, fused and paramagnetic basalt crust of our moon has been less
diffusing or leaking less of its 4He, and practically none of its 3He
that’s tapped in fused basalt and perhaps carbonado.

Our own terrestrial helium depletion or peak helium era is nearly upon
us, though all we have to do is continually ignore it and it’ll
literally go away. By 2050 the maximum world extraction rate of
helium will supposedly peak at 50000 tonnes(5e7 kg/year), whereas the
current rate of depletion is estimated as 3.6e7 kg/year. However, the
drop-off or cutoff will likely be a whole lot sooner and much steeper
if there’s a ten fold increase in demand, unless it’s discovered that
the geology of our planet that supposedly has only at most 1e10 kg to
spare (of which we’ll be lucky to ever access 10% of that), is holding
out on us.
http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/Helium.htm
http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/09/discovery-of-huge-helium-reserves-at.html
“Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company (POGC) announced today that it has
discovered the world's biggest helium reserve in its South Pars gas
field. POGC estimated the volume of South Pars helium reserves at 10
billion cubic meters, approximately 25 percent of the world’s known
reserves [Mehr News Agency, 30 September]. The South Pars gas field is
shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar is already producing some helium. The
US is the world's leading supplier of helium, followed by Algeria.

The world’s annual production of helium is approximately 200 million
cubic meters. The main use of the gas is in cryogenic applications,
particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets in MRI
scanners. Helium is also the gas of choice to fill airships and
blimps.”
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If we should manage to locate and capture only 1% of the global 4He
natural cache that’s supposedly worth only 1e10 kg (before it manages
to diffuse or leak away on its own), gives us 1e8 kg from which to
sustain our current draw of 3.6e7 kg/year, and that’s roughly three
years worth. Personally I think Earth will manage to offer
considerably more, as will as the fission produced helium will likely
be reinterpreted as offering something better than ten fold greater
than currently mainstream status-quo specified as merely 3e6 kg/yr.

At least for the moment 4He is relatively cheap, but that’s only
because of a very large surplus of natural gas has most of the 4He in
stored inventory as overflowing and getting bulk vented because of
insufficient storage. However, once that volume gets nearly depleted
from a global demand that has grown by ten fold, is when the limited
resupply is going to allow its price per scf or m3 to literally go
through the roof.

No doubt India also has access to substantial natural gas fields
offering a higher than average percentage of helium, however, if the
global helium demand should increases by ten fold (as it likely will),
and thereby the extraction of 3.6e8 kg/year becoming necessary, could
deplete the vast bulk of everything we know of (1e10 kg) within as
little as 30 years. So, perhaps we’ll have to start accusing India
and Iran’s Pars Oil and Gas Company(POGC) of sponsoring terrorism or
hiding WMD, and/or if nothing else we can always accuse them of
hoarding uranium and thorium reserves for evil extortion reasons of
promoting their own global Islamic/Muslim domination. In other words,
besides the vast wealth of liquid oil and natural gas hydrocarbons
under Islamic/Muslim ownership and control, it seems that they also
have another treasure trove of soon to be extremely valuable helium,
plus their having the necessary uranium and thorium reserves to boot,
means that their future of thorium powered energy that’s relatively
failsafe and cheap is a done deal.

Of course this interpreted volume of commercially extracted 4He
doesn’t even include the natural diffusion as geology leakage taking
place, that’s required in order to sustain the 5.24 ppm of atmospheric
saturation. Perhaps using the modern physics of fusion to
artificially create 4He from hydrogen may arrive just in the nick of
time, but it too will be somewhat spendy because fusion energy is also
the ultimate WMD.

3He is actually good/better for just about everything besides creating
those fusion bombs that our NIF has been working on, including its use
in party balloons. Problems is, unlike the relatively cheap 4He, 3He
is already scarce and spendy as hell because our shielded planet has
hardly any of that element, and thus far we have managed to toss away
the bulk of our 4He laced within natural gas that also includes a
smaller 1e-4 proportion of 3He (no wonder our protective layer of
ozone/O3 has that big gaping hole over either pole).

Unlike the physically dark surface of our naked moon that should be
loaded with 3He, our shielded Earth has relatively little of that
element to spare, plus we're running ourselves out of 4He within the
next three decades or at least by 2050 it could become practically
nonexistent other than whatever internal thorium and uranium are
capable of producing, that’s being suggested as limited to as little
as 3e6 kg/year (roughly 1% of our future needs if 100% of that fission
produced helium could even be captured, though I'd kind of doubt we
could manage to capture .001% before it leaks off and gets blown away
by the solar wind). In other words, those precious elements of 4He
and 3He are literally on their way out, and the rate of their natural
replenishment is not going to be .001% sufficient unless we can manage
to artificially create helium and without that method being too spendy
or otherwise too negative consequential.

Even if the natural rate of 4He replenishment were capable of
sustaining 3e7 kg/year, and we managed to capture 0.1% of it, is only
worth 3e4 kg/year. The LHC needs to circulate nearly 100 tonnes(1e5
kg) of 4He without any backup reserves, of which that one application
alone exceeds the annually produced resource by 33:1, and there’s all
sorts of other commercial, industrial, medical, aerospace,
astrophysics plus other research and retail needs for helium. Shale
gas via explosive fracking and extensive ground water polluting
probably doesn’t contain as much natural helium, and as other nations
catch on and attempt to modernize and equalize their own foreign
exchange disparity, the future demand for this rare element of helium
could easily reach 3.6e8 kg/year (clearly unsustainable once global
stored reserves are depleted).

Helium is by far not the only terrestrial shortage:
A global shortage of diamond could also be resolved off-world. As for
carbonado(aka black diamond), being really nifty for all sorts of
applications besides continuous tether fibers, and being easily
produced in the hard vacuum of space or even upon our physically dark
and paramagnetic moon, in unlimited volume that's easily transported
to/from just about anywhere, should be at least considered as one of
the cheapest raw elements of mostly carbon that can be artificially
obtained and processed into just about anything.

A question I have: Are you and other Oligarch Rothschilds planning on
making us wait until the very last terrestrial tonne of everything of
any value is about to run out? (at which time you ZNRs may have to
fake and/or false-flag us into another war in order to artificially
inflate the global price via hoarding and insider market speculation,
plus otherwise steal the scarce remainder of helium, diamond and heavy
rare element metals from others). Of course, while obtaining off-
world helium(s), undoubtedly there should be many other elements of
extremely valuable rare-earths that will have to also get processed
and put into terrestrial circulation, unless our Oligarchs are
planning on insider speculating and hoarding those as well.

By going off-world, many rare and valuable elements and complex
solutions can be discovered, excavated and/or processed with fewer
social/political or environmental restrictions while on the fly (so to
speak), and efficiently transferred back to Earth or the highest
bidder. Of course that’s not going to happen as long as we keep the
old guard of our Oligarchs in charge, and never bother to look back.

The still unexplained loss of our OCO mission of Earth science
(unusually foiled similar to other previous failures), is perhaps just
another prime example of FUD and how we’re otherwise being kept
uninformed and mislead into believing only whatever our handlers want
us to believe, as history that’s usually configured for making them
look super good and way smarter than the rest of us.

In addition to what our nicely sunlit planet w/moon and others similar
have to offer, those as wandering icy rogue/nomad planets could be
every bit as good or better, such as those lakes under thick
Antarctica ice remain fluid not because of our planet having a sun,
nor having anything to do with our AGW, but only because of the
ongoing 64+ TW of internal heat that’s mostly from a combination of
geophysical modulation plus fission within Earth, plus a certain
amount of gravity tidal modulation that’s keeping our flexible planet
with it’s extremely thin crust a little extra warm from the inside
out, at an average surface bedrock heat loss of perhaps 128 mw/m2.
From the surface, we humans manage to add roughly half again that
amount of thermal energy into everything from the surface on up (still
considerably less than what nature contributes), and of course we have
our sun that’s less than ideally stable, plus our nifty moon that’s
contributing via radiating its own IR of 1220 w/m2, plus contributing
2e20 N of tidal force that’s continually modulating throughout the
whole fluid body of our planet, which may help to explain where some
of the internal heat is coming from besides a core and mantel of
fission that’s responsible for creating the bulk of our helium that
we’re about to run ourselves out of a sufficient annual volume, mostly
because the vast majority of this helium has simply been discarded,
passed through or directly vented.

Of course our modern day K12s and most others are no longer getting
educated as near smart enough to care about any natural or artificial
loss of helium, just like the Oligarchs could care less if all the
natural ice on Earth melted, and ocean levels increased by tens of
meters or whatever extreme weather of storms and/or droughts became
ten fold worse off. I mean to suggest, when these Oligarch
Rothschilds own a fleet of business jets and Mega Yachts plus multiple
villas in addition to several multimillion dollar condos around the
world, is why they really don’t have to worry if any one of those
habitats is inconvenienced or disrupted by extreme weather or should
ever get flooded out because of rising ocean levels, because they are
fully insured or so wealthy that they don’t care if 10% of their
estate holdings get damaged.

On Apr 24, 6:53 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <***@hotmail.com>
wrote:
: well, so, What?
: : I replied;
: : 4He migrates directly through ozone. It doesn't bind, it dilutes
: : or displaces ozone as well as it acts as a molecular lubricant.

The "well, so, What?" is that our government and its faith-based mafia
of Oligarchs that get to operate as our public-funded overlords and
robber barons regardless of whomever we elect or appoint, have been
systematically telling us another pack of lies upon lies, as well as
having been creating and sustaining wars, costing us millions of lives
plus trillions of our hard earned loot, not to mention wasting
precious decades and ultimately they seem intent upon keeping us from
going off-world until they've fully exploited this planet and gotten
every last drop of blood and dime out of us.

Obviously that doesn't bother those that never want their white-washed
version of history to ever get investigated and/or forbid ever revised
in order to suit the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Therefore
K12s have been kept snookered or just distracted and dumbfounded past
the point of no return.

The really good news, is that by 2050 if not much sooner, those large
gaping holes in our protective ozone layer should start to close up,
because there will have been a sudden and significant reduction of
released helium, along with perhaps 99% of our remaining commercial
inventory of helium getting recycled because it’s just too spendy to
waste, exactly as it should have been as of decades ago and before
having made those polar ozone holes worse than ever.

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If we can’t modify or much less get rid of our Ozone(O3) via CFCs,
perhaps we can just keep using our helium(4He), and call it good.
After all, we’ve still got enough of that 4He to artificially exploit
from natural gas, plus otherwise vent and to just waste on blimps,
balloons and items like LHC until there’s hardly any left, so perhaps
the sooner it gets depleted the better.

Big Oil, Big Energy, Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Mortgage and all
of their insider investment tradings along with their very own pretend
SEC run by yet another breed of Oligarch/Semites, along with its
puppet government, of which our public funded agencies individually
and collectively lies to us all the time (before, during and after the
fact of their being caught worse than red handed), because that’s what
Oligarchs expect of their pretend democracy for controlling their
snookered and dumbfounded republic.

Going off-world by way of privately exploiting asteroids, our moon and
the extremely nearby planet Venus would clearly ruin all of that good
life that our Oligarch Rothschilds that have grown to love and cherish
each and every non-working day of their lives, so it’s no wonder our
resident minion rednecks of brown-nosed clowns, rusemasters and FUD-
masters have been pulling out all the stops. Whenever possible they
use obfuscation and the good old standard denial of being in denial as
their status-quo policy.

So, it’s no wonder they can’t risk getting down and dirty with this
topic of global resources running out, or simply getting too scarce
and unaffordable. Instead we get hammered by their mainstream media
gauntlet of infomercials and fancy eyecandy that’s supposed to make us
believe they’re always going the right thing (such as allowing 9/11
and subsequently spotting all of those Muslim WMD for us, so that we
could expend thousands of lives and blow trillions of our hard earned
loot, not to mention wasting yet another decade).

By simply lubricating our exosphere of molecular O3 with 4He that’s
uncontrollably migrating upwards, getting nicely heated and blown away
by the solar wind, is perhaps how we can also manage to get rid of our
O3 (Ozone) and 4He at the same time.

According to physics, 4He sticks to nothing, and nothing sticks to
it. Short of fusion and ionized as plasma, 4He is inert and doesn’t
freeze solid until taken down to something less than 1.5 K, and its
smaller atomic radius puts it easily in between all other molecules.
It is also diamagnetic so that other magnetic fields get repulsed by
4He, and yet its molecular electrical conductivity as plasma is
extremely good, and otherwise it represents an extremely poor
electrical conductor or ideal insulator once outside of being ionized.

In other words, besides being an extremely slippery element, 4He is a
kind of molecular changeling or transformer that perms multiple
functions of cooling, heating, insulating, conducting and otherwise
lubricates.

C60 buckyballs could even contain several 4He or 3He atoms, as well as
external to C60 buckyballs is where the helium can perform as a
molecular lubricant and thus help C60 as well as most any element to
flow or migrate.

If that’s not offering a terrific molecular lubricant, then perhaps
nothing is.
http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Inorganic_Chemistry/Descriptive_Chemistry/Main_Group_Elements/Group_18%3A_The_Noble_Gases/Chemistry_of_Helium

Of course our naked moon gives off a great deal of helium plus a few
other lofty elements in addition to its sodium, and each of those
elements are as easily ionized and blown away by the solar wind. Even
common lunar dust gets elevated to 100 km by the enormous
electrostatic charge that our naked moon represents, and under the
right conditions some(under 0.1%) of that extremely fine dust can also
get solar wind accelerated past 2.4 km/sec and thereby blown away.

Oddly the naked and physically dark (average 7% reflective) surface
and especially where each and every Apollo mission or probe ever
landed, never once managed to set down upon any exposed bedrock/ore of
sodium to speak of, nor did their orbiting portions of any mission
ever encounter or having to compensate for any exosphere of ionized
sodium. Of course all of those Apollo landings were apparently
situated at the absolute most inert locations that presented the least
local elements of any metallicity or radiation, as well as most of the
nasty solar UV, X-rays and cosmic influx were somehow minimized and/or
nullified (including raw solar UV which never seemed to exist or
otherwise react with anything that their unfiltered Kodak film could
have easily recorded).

No doubt, if they couldn’t notice the ionized sodium, they sure as
hell wouldn’t have paid any attention to all of the diffused helium
that was also going away from our naked moon. As is, for Earth and
our moon we still have nothing scientifically quantifying the amounts
of exosphere gasses leaving each gravity-well, as taken by way of the
solar wind. Perhaps we have no further need of 4He and 3He.

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Here is a kicker Keep Helium and Hydrogen in two equal volumes at
the same pressure and temperature,will contain identical number of
molecules Reality is it fits with any type of gases. Interesting
yes TreBert
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Here is a kicker   Keep Helium and Hydrogen in two equal volumes at
the same pressure and temperature,will contain identical number of
molecules  Reality is it fits with any type of gases.  Interesting
yes      TreBert
That's interesting, except keeping nomad molecules of H2 and 4He in
equal volumes just isn't doable when set free to fend for themselves.

Unlike 4He, H2 will have multiple opportunities to react and bind with
all sorts of other elements before leaving Earth. Helium binds with
nothing (not even with itself) and has been given a molecular one-way
ticket to fly.

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I agree with much of what has been said and written here about the scarcity of >helium.
The point I would raise is that we should be taxing this highly as we should all >natural resources to replace all existing taxes, calculated by the amount of >damage they cause the planet and ecosystems.
Time is running out to do it any other way.
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